Antagonizes: Tortured Helping
I remember the day she and I first interacted. It’s 1999. I would watch her from the distance … she always seemed like she didn’t want to be bothered. She’d walk through the mail room, and the guys in there would get silent. I was usually back there chilling with them … bullshitting to make the time pass. She’d scoff at them, on her way into the main office. The moment she’d leave the room, they’d immediately start talking about her. Their conversations were hilarious. I’d laugh as they’d start telling stories about the shit they would do to her … but I never interjected. An very attractive light-skinned Jamaican woman … 28 at the time, 5′10″ about 155 … thick in the right places … nice professional sense of style.
Not my type, but attractive nonetheless.
One day she walks through the mail room, and Chris gets into an argument with her. I’m in the main office at the time. So I walk to the mail room … everyone gets quiet, except for her. She’s cursing at the top of her lungs. I ask her to calm down … and go back to work. She hesitates, then complies. When she leaves the room I ask the guys … why they are always messing with her. Chris says something along the line of, “She’s psycho. Fly but psycho. You just started working here so you don’t know, but you’ll see in time.” Rafael agreed … I didn’t know him from a hole in the wall … but I grew up with Chris. I leave the mail room, and go back to the main room. She’s at her desk … it’s opposite of mine.
Her back is to me, but I hear her quietly sobbing.
Conversation anointed by fermented libation.
After work we’d sit in the bar in Port Authority. The conversation was more casual … with liquor in our systems. Things weren’t always sweet between us … it is her nature to perceive the negative. She had been hurt so many times before. She saw me as if I was one of those guys. Always on the defensive. Even though I wasn’t trying to get with her. Carrying the pain with her like a badge of remembrance. Unable to let go, using it to strive for tomorrow. I’ve heard the same song being sung by hundreds of people, I know her story well. Although my story was very different … there were some parallels, like with any situation of pain. She was willing to at least … truly listen to what I had to say. We’d make up … and eventually things would return. During one of our transitional phases, when the chairs were returning to the upright position.
She comes in from lunch … alone.
She has the look of frustration in her eyes. Locked tears welled up, unable to release. I asked her what was wrong. She begins to tell me about an encounter with a homeless guy, on her way back to the office. She said that she saw him sleeping on the bench, as she stood outside of this store. He peed on himself. She could see it drip to the floor, but he did not move. His piss, seemed like it was a tint of yellow and lime green. He scratches himself, and turns over … facing her. She describes him as looking sickly, like at any moment he could’ve died. With holes in his face, as if it was deteriorating. At the time, the words she used to describe him were kinda harsh. However, it was understandable because she was heated. She searches through her pocketbook for some money.
She walks over and tries to give him ten dollars.
In her exact words she then said, “Do you know he had the nerve to catch an attitude with me? So I say to him.” She continues to tell me the story. Expressing that she was just trying to help. She’s standing on 42nd Street and 6th Ave, arguing with a homeless man. Upon completing her story she asks me, “if that happened to you wouldn’t you be upset?” I told her no. She asked why … so I said, I used to sit with homeless people all the time, and one thing I’ve learned … is most do not want pity. Your pity is offensive, and degrading. You weren’t trying to help him, you were trying to help yourself. Of course she got upset, and disagreed. She asks me what I would’ve done.
I tell her … I would’ve let him die.
She thought that was crazy. I asked her if she could imagine what it would be like, to almost starve to death … but at the very last moment a person gives you a sandwich. They are just trying to help. However, as you bite into that perceived salvation … each bite brings you closer to the end. Knowing that there will not be a sandwich tomorrow, you savor it. Each bite would be agonizing. Yes he could try to be optimistic, yet in his situation it wouldn’t be realistic. Do you realize that the person who gave you the sandwich tortured you to death with their “kindness”? She said, “but I didn’t give him a sandwich, I tried to give him ten dollars. That would’ve lasted him awhile.”
She didn’t see my point.
So I broke down her money. You buy potato chips everyday, or anything that doesn’t cost much money … because you want to last long. You can’t afford anything filling, because filling items would mean less food. I elaborate on each day, what was ate … what was done. We get down to the last day. That last meal. I tell her that the outcome is the same. He could be optimistic, and happy while it lasts. Yet, the reality is he faces death everyday. He’d have to be naive to forget that … to be lost in bliss. If he doesn’t want to die, he’ll do something about it. He can go to a shelter, pizza shops give away the unsold pizza at night … I know I was homeless, and living on the streets. You say you were trying to help him, but did you ask him what he wanted?
You were only concerned with what you wanted.
You felt bad, and wanted to feel better. You weren’t helping him, you were helping yourself. She asked me, “is it so wrong to feel bad for someone?” I said, “no, but you pitied him.” If you want to help, help someone that wants it. He didn’t ask you for it, and when he rejected it … you basically tried to shove the money down his throat. Yet, you perceived yourself to be helping? If you want to understand what someone is going through, you must put yourself in their shoes. You can’t understand their perspective, if you merely try to look at their situation through your own perception. You must think like them, act like them, be them … only then will you begin to understand. She catches an attitude, and turns away … but before she did I could see that she clearly understood. Before I went back to finishing my work I said, “Sometimes we help more, by not doing anything.”
Does only the pain matter? I’ll tell the story … soon.
- Prasand
geisha_doll
on September 8th, 2004
I just wanted to say sweetie that I always enjoy reading your musings and remembrances.
Jennifer Charneco
on September 8th, 2004
wow .. I never looked at it from that perspective ;\
prasand
on September 8th, 2004
*rubs some catnip on his fingers before typing*
I remember how we went
back and forth
like two courting
lovers … sending
no … wait
exchanging
messages in articulate
ooooo … you actually read my entries. Sometimes it seems like no one reads them. Doumo arrigato gozaimasu.
- Prasand
geisha_doll
on September 9th, 2004
-laughs softly-
Our words – a mingling of oleander and jasmine outside my window.
Of course I read your stuff, love. I would not have your on my list if I found no interest in it. -smiles-
prasand
on September 9th, 2004
*burps, then scratches his ass as he watches sports on the TV*
Our words – knocking on your window, like a horny high schooler that climbed the tree outside … trying to sneak into your house, while your parents are asleep.
Sorry my comments in your guestbook set my current mood, lmfao. hey, hey … Katrina / Kitrina (will call you a different name each time till I get it right) … I didn’t know, I just thought I was on your list, cause your LJ is friends only … and that gives me access to read your entries. *sticks tongue out*
——–
I was looking at my log of our one and only IM conversation a couple of weeks ago. I said brb, and never returned. Forgive me for that, a lot was going on at that moment … I had to tend to the masses that needed advice. Then after being worn out by my position, I disappeared. =\
——–
Session Start (AIM – Press-ing:Purrr-ing): Tue Aug 26 18:56:12 2003
[06:56:12 PM] Purrr-ing: Boo
[06:56:32 PM] Press-ing: cute
[06:56:36 PM] Press-ing: at work?
[06:56:47 PM] Purrr-ing: Yes, it’s called motherhood. -smiles-
[06:57:04 PM] Press-ing: homemaker .. blar
[06:57:05 PM] Press-ing: =)
[06:57:29 PM] Purrr-ing: -laughing- Home maker, business owner, wife, mother, lover…so many jobs so little of me to fullfill them.
[06:57:48 PM] Purrr-ing: Damn my 5′1″ frame, damn it to hell I say.
[06:58:36 PM] Press-ing: Wife … lover … I would think the first would include the second .. unless there is a point of separation
[06:59:05 PM] Press-ing: I’m one foot one inch taller than you … I could use you as an arm rest
[06:59:14 PM] Press-ing: though not your shoulders … but your head
[06:59:16 PM] Press-ing: lol
[06:59:21 PM] Press-ing: j/k
[06:59:23 PM] Purrr-ing: Oh sure..
[06:59:30 PM] Purrr-ing: make fun of the short chick
[06:59:32 PM] Purrr-ing: -grins-
[06:59:53 PM] Purrr-ing: Yes, I made the distinction for a reason.
[07:00:29 PM] Press-ing: I was only kidding of course … it’s funny … cause even though I am 6′2″ … I’ve only dated two women that were above 5′4″
[07:00:46 PM] Press-ing: hrm @ the distinction comment
[07:00:50 PM] Press-ing: I will leave it alone
[07:01:20 PM] Purrr-ing: Might be best, as my brain is a bit fried.
—- cut out portion of dialogue —-
[07:48:28 PM] Purrr-ing: -chuckles- You enjoy reacting.
—- cut out portion of dialogue —-
Session Close (Purrr-ing): Tue Aug 26 20:08:05 2003
Damn, I’ve been saying “blar” for awhile now. As I was reading the log, I wanted to react to your reacting statement, lol. I have a very domineering personality. People tend to get passive when they interact with me, and that frustrates me. So I like a person to direct me, so they can be in the driver seat. Yet, ironically … during that interaction my domineering/demanding/overbearing/controlling personality … makes me end up steering it anyway. Damn.
Add the name JJones133 to your allow list. < --- demanding, like I said ... let's try that again.
If you do not mind, could you please add the name JJones133 to your allow list. < ---- was too forced, I like the first one better (I also enjoy reacting to my own reactions, lol).
Add the name JJones133 to your allow list. < --- it takes a certain type of person, to not get offended by that and laugh at my audacity.
I’m an ass, lol. Oh yeah, sorry about the excessive number of comments on your guestbook. I kept getting an illegal tag error, and for some odd reason I thought that it was because of the length of my comments (lack of oxygen to my brain I guess). So I broke it up, just to realize that the errors were the URL’s contained in the comments. I would delete those, but then again that is because … I’m anal, lol.
I left a lot of material to work with. Psycho-analyze this comment.
Gone. Later.
- Prasand
geisha_doll
on September 10th, 2004
OMG Boy! Okay us take this in portions, shall we? -laughs and shakes her head-
“Our words – knocking on your window, like a horny high schooler that climbed the tree outside … trying to sneak into your house, while your parents are asleep.”
This had me laughing. I’ll leave a candle for you so you don’t fall on the rose bush, hm?
“Damn, I’ve been saying “blar” for awhile now. As I was reading the log, I wanted to react to your reacting statement, lol. I have a very domineering personality. People tend to get passive when they interact with me, and that frustrates me. So I like a person to direct me, so they can be in the driver seat. Yet, ironically … during that interaction my domineering/demanding/overbearing/controlling personality … makes me end up steering it anyway. Damn.”
I’ll be honest, I associate ‘blar’ with you now. -chuckles- Now, there are some people who are aggressive and domineering in a conversation and there are some other people who are passive….what am I? I am not so sure as I am actually quite capable of controlling a conversation but find pleasure in seeing where someone goes with their words. Sometimes when you’re in the ‘driver seat’ it is because the other person allows you to out of interest. -smiles- How can I get to know you if I’m the one doing all the talking? How can one learn anything if you’re not listening to something other than your own voice/ideas/philosophies etc…?
As for your comments on my guestbook -laughs- (Seriously e-mail me! It will be easier for you.)
My venture into “webdesign” is just one big learning experience. I went from knowing nothing and having a page on AOL with one of their page builders (Damn, I should have saved it.) To at least knowing enough to make something look half way decent.
“The un-aligned PHP outputted html code … which breaks at the wrong points. Then again … most sites do that, I guess I am just anal.”
No, you’re not anal. Actually I wish I could have applied CSS rules to that as well but I am not knowledgeable enough in PHP to separate content from presentation. Trust me, I tried and made a big mess in the process. So for now until I understand more, it stays as is.
“The almost completely liquid layout, made me smile. I say the slices and links could’ve still been done in liquid style, without using even one image tag.“
No, you are right and since this project, I have figured out how to do that. My next step is to perfect that whole hover class with images thing. -laughs- Will it be done with this layout? HELL NO. I’m too damn lazy.
“My eyebrow raises when I see the ACRONYM being abused, when … span class=”alias” title=”Internet” … since it is neither an acronym or abbreviation.”
-smiles- Ah well we are speaking of a personal website, no? My sense of humor always seems to get the best of me so a bit of abusing in the acronym department is acceptable. -laughs-
-smiles- You are welcome to mess around with my source anything you feel bored and in need of something to do (which for some reason, I find that hard to believe.) And of course your input is always appreciated. I will never turn away good critique.
As for your new AIM nic. -smiles- We’ll see, we’ll see. You demand but I just take my time complying -laughs- and no, I was not offended by your…request.
-Kiss on your forehead-
oh by the way… -smiles- I don’t use my real name in this little cyber realm due to an unfortunate encounter with a messed up MF who stalked me. Although I will say this, I actually said my name and you didn’t even realize it. If you do figure it out (which I do not mind) I would prefer that the two (my alias and my r-l-n) not be associated with each other but you are welcome to IM or e-mail me and ask me if it is what you think it is.
geisha_doll
on September 10th, 2004
BTW darling. That one and only IM? Did not happen a few weeks ago. -laughing- It happened a year ago -shows you the date- Aug 26 18:56:12 2003
prasand
on September 26th, 2004
“OMG Boy! Okay us take this in portions, shall we?”
That’s the best way to deal with me, lol. When I share, I tend to share a lot … which is also why convos end up being steered.
“I’ll leave a candle for you so you don’t fall on the rose bush, hm?”
Ooooh thanks for reminding me. *grabs a rose before he starts his climb*
“I’ll be honest, I associate ‘blar’ with you now. -chuckles-”
lol, my niggah Bobby () started that word. It’s been spreading like wildfire ever since. Try not to get caught by the plague.
“Sometimes when you’re in the ‘driver seat’ it is because the other person allows you to out of interest.”
I would rather listen and interject reactions. =)
“How can I get to know you if I’m the one doing all the talking?”
Sometimes one can learn a lot through silence.
“Seriously e-mail me! It will be easier for you.”
Sometimes … emailing is such a daunting task. I dunno why sending an email is so difficult for me, but it is … lol. It’s ironic that I would rather type something up, break it into sections … testing to see how much text is allowed, making multiple posts till I get it right … rather than send an email. Blar.
Yeah, I realize that your endeavor to master HTML is an ongoing thing. I see the posts you make to give direction to those who lack it. The contributions to help someone who’s having a harder time with it … so their journey could be that much easier. I smile every time i read one. Yet, I don’t comment … but I read it. I pay attention in silence, the way you did prior to commenting here. =P That’s part of the reason why I made those posts … even though you are already with direction. I wanted to to make my contribution … but in an assholish “you missed a spot” kinda way, lol. =P
Hrm, ask you if it is what I think it is. Ummmmm … ummmmmm … hmmmmmm … nahhhhh I think I’ll keep guessing Kitinka. =)
Hrm, I wonder if you look like a Kitinka. Then again what does a Kitinka look like? I dunno why but for some reason I recall seeing you, but I just don’t remember. If that makes sense. Blar.
- Prasand
————————–
I responded to your comment before, but as I was paging through the comments today … taking a trip down memory lane, I saw that the comment wasn’t there. Luckily I am anal, and keep a copy of everything I write. I don’t know what happened. Please excuse my faux pas, this is tardy.
In reference to your second comment (which I didn’t reply to previously). I included the dates on from the log on purpose. Hence why even though I excluded the majority of the conversation I still included the closing time. When I made reference to a couple of weeks ago, I was saying that … I read through our one and only conversational log from Aug 2003 … a couple of weeks ago. I take it you mentally inserted a pause, or a “from” when you read that line. Once again, please excuse my tardiness.
- Prasand
Anonymous
on October 1st, 2004
fitting?
I really thought that Keanu Reeves and myself were the only two people left who enjoyed the company of the homeless, I have many friends who are homeless, panhandlers and the whatnots of this evil world…..Your right pra, theyd die happy knowing you care what the say rather than you trying to save….
What are you saving, honestly?
Pistols pump perfet, where you at?
The bass line is merrrlin, where you at?
What are you saving, honestly?
Try saving something bigger than yourself and you’ll find its not really broken.
What are you saving, honestly?
Jenique
Peace